Wendy, do you mean this Ganesh Baba?:


"Baba was always smoking charas. We began smoking at 7:30 pm and continued smoking far into the night. Baba harangued us with admonitions to keep our backs straight while smoking — and at all other times — this was his first and primary teaching. He condemned "bloody slouchers", saying that people who slouch have no self-respect. Only by maintaining ourselves in an erect and upright posture, he said, could we create the conditions for maintaining our "biopsychic apparatus" in "optimal operating condition".

During that evening, he said and did many outrageous things. Perhaps because some of us appeared to have low self-esteem, he tried some shock tactics on us. He declared that we were all animals — just arseholes — in fact not even as good as arseholes. He said we were all fuck-ups, crazy, the dregs of our society. He talked a lot about fucking — said that it was what us Westerners thought about most of the time. Baba, being a sannyasi (in the traditional Indian meaning of the word), was himself celibate.

As he once said in reply to the question, "What do you give Westerners when they come to you?":

I give them beatings. I abuse them. I tear their vanities and their egos and their Western pretensions into pieces. I pulverize their intellectual pretensions. I integrate their disorganized and disintegrated psyches and, above all, I love them and also kick them to express my love for them. ([2], p.79.)

Ganesh Baba had a low opinion of Tibetan monks, holding that they had perverted the Buddha's teaching by excessive moralizing (though this of course is highly debatable). He verbally attacked them, calling them everything he could think of — except that he expressed respect for some of the lamas he had met, such as the Dalai Lama, the late Kalu Rimpoche and the late Gyalwa Karmapa.

He said that my understanding of the Buddhist concept of shunyata ("emptiness") was that it was something like the vacuity of orgasm, only a thousand times more so. He asked me at one point what will become of all this (waving his arm to indicate the phenomenal world) when I die. He talked of waking from the illusion of the reality of the phenomenal world. He said that when we were in the womb, after consciousness had arisen in the embryo, there is no awareness of space and time but there is awareness of light — it's like being in a dark room with a night light, and if you can remember that night light then you know who you were before you were born.

Baba said I was fucked up because of (what he called) my extra-cerebrality.

Me: My what, Baba?
Baba: Your extra-cerebrality, you fucked up son-of-a-bitch! Do I have to repeat myself?
Me: What's that, Baba?
Baba: It's because you were a lama in your past six lives! And in this lifetime you are reborn in the West, but you have this cerebral hangover. And worse, you were a fucked up Gelukpa lama, living in Lhasa — a medical doctor even.
Me: ???
Baba: You see, my dear Peter Meyer, you still think like a Tibetan lama! Don't you see that's your problem? That was perfectly alright when you were a lama, but now you are a Westerner, with a good Western education, but because you trail all this past-life-cerebrality with you, your thinking is all fucked up, it's extra-cerebral thinking."

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Yes, very interesting. He was also initiated into Kriya by Lahiri Mahasaya at age 4. And still smoking pot at 90. Right! But you know, who knows?

That article was hilarious. It's kinda true though, isn't it? I was wondering how long it took those of you who were initiated to become initiated.

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